Posted by: aediculaantinoi | March 2, 2011

A Miscellany

Gosh, so much going on…I didn’t want to do a billion smaller posts (though, a million would be all right…), so I’m going to attempt to do this as a bit of a round-up of various issues, often unrelated, starting with some Ekklesía Antínoou-specific matters, and moving into other areas.

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Ekklesía Antínoou names three “Builders”

There are various titles within the Ekklesía Antínoou that usually designate that someone has performed a particular action or service, or has participated in a certain ritual (e.g. Lupercus/a/um, Mystes Antínoou). Not all such titles have been definitively identified, and newer ones will emerge as time goes on, I’m sure. However, one such title that existed in previous groups, I felt, needed to be given out again, because the first instance on which it was given has been fulfilled and exceeded by three individuals. All of their combined efforts from 2008 until 2011 have made it possible for me to attend PantheaCon, and the utter necessity of what the three of them might simply view as “playing their part,” “doing what they can,” “helping a friend,” or “being hospitable” have been, in fact, much more than that, and thus they deserve recognition.

Thus, I made this declaration earlier today in our own group, and would now like to make it more public:

Erynn Rowan Laurie, Luperca and Mystes Antínoou,
Ogam, Mystes Antínoou,
and Disirdottir, “Assistes” Antínoou,
are henceforth to bear the title Aedificator/Aedificatrix as part of their official titulature for their actions in supporting the work and the building of the Ekklesía Antínoou, particularly at PantheaCon but also on other occasions.

An aedificator/aedificatrix is literally a “builder.” However, I’m also somewhat playing on the old Roman priestly position of aedile, a rank that was in charge of the maintenance and building of temples.

I’d also like to say a word on the “Assistai,” since Disirdottir is among their number. In the Antinoan Mysteries, there are a number of people who have very courageously helped me out in putting them on. It is possible for me to do it on my own, but very difficult, so having others in a position to assist is very welcome. However, in doing this, they essentially volunteer to take part in the Mysteries without actually having them conferred, and by so doing they negate the possibility of ever being initiated into these Mysteries in the future. Without the various “Assistai,” I would not have been able to initiate as many people into the Antinoan Mysteries since 2008 as I have, both in San Jose during PantheaCon and in Seattle at other times. As we will, with any luck and the grace of the gods, be doing another round of the Antinoan Mysteries this coming April, the services of several Seattle-area “Assistai” as well as Mystai will be needed again, and so I’m ever grateful and thankful for their essential participation.

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Supreme Court Ruling protects hate speech

That jackass Fred Phelps and his crew recently got a favorable ruling from the Supreme Court in terms of their ability to protest slain U.S. servicemembers’ funerals and other such activities as they see fit, even though local regulations can restrict the areas and such where their activities occur. As freedom of speech and religion are very dear rights that we have in the U.S., on the one hand this can be seen as a victory for that; on the other, it’s fucking Fred Phelps, whose rhetoric is so screwed up that I am hard-pressed to maintain rationality when speaking of it and must very deliberately try and attempt not to just say “fuck fuck fuck” the entire time.

People, however, who do counter-demonstrations are also fully protected in doing so now, and so I encourage you, as well as any groups you may know about, to do these whenever the Phelps gang comes to town. Here’s a suggestion: everyone dress up like Bes and sing Cee Lo Green’s “Forget You”! In fact, an altered lyrics version of the song might be very appropriate to compose for such occasions. Anyone want to help me with that?

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More of the same…

My apologies for recently saying I wouldn’t discuss this topic any further and now bringing it up again. But, there are some interesting further developments that I wanted to make sure you know about.

First, Mistress Ladybug, a member of Come As You Are Coven’s Amazon Priestess Tribe, has written her own response on this, which I think is also excellent and wonderful and I suggest you check it out. It, again, makes me very happy to have C.A.Y.A. Coven as an ally through Communalia.

Second, the ever-resourceful Sannion has written his own meta-commentary on the issue, which must be seen (literally) to be believed. Make sure you put all drinks down before reading it.

Third, foxfetch has done a very excellent call for new gods in the image of trans people. I’m all for that, and perhaps in the near future, I’ll be writing more on that subject here. As much as I like many of the deities from the past, including Antinous and many others, I do think that some entirely new deities might not be bad, rather than trying to re-interpret some deities from the past into new molds, or pigeon-holing certain deities (like Attis and Cybele) as trans-positive deities when transwomen are not the same as self-castrated devotees, and the life of Tiresias is not a thing that most people are able to attain.

Fourth, Thora Drakos, a Come As You Are Coven priestess who was the only one from the group at the gender discussion on Monday at PantheaCon, has written an account of her own experience with this matter at the con’. I highly recommend reading it. One of the things it does extremely well–which I must admit I have not always done in my own coverage here–is that it clearly distinguishes that there was a separate movement to open a discussion about gender exclusivity at PantheaCon independent of the events that occurred with C.A.Y.A. Coven’s Lilith ritual. This is really important in the context of the wider discussions that have gone on. While some may not agree with C.A.Y.A. Coven’s Amazon Priestess Tribe and their stances on some of these matters, nonetheless one cannot accuse them of not having integrity at this point in the aftermath, nor of not taking these issues very much to heart–which is as much as we can ask of anyone on any issue, I think.

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That’s all for now, I think. More later on other topics, probably.


Responses

  1. First of all, I’d like to thank you personally for standing up for CAYA. I fully recognize that you have your own opinions about the whole topic, and that they may or may not agree with mine/ours, but in this week of watching the firestorm while we mustered our thoughts and feelings, yours has been one of the voices calling for calm, reasoned, discourse, and supporting CAYA when we were being vilified.

    Thank you.

    In case you’re interested, there are a few more blogs going up from our clergy- mine is here- http://tadrakos.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/to-whom-it-may-concern/, my friend rowan and I have a joint blog on which we’ve both discussed it- http://thewildegarden.com, and another priestess has her blog here-http://theprimalheart.blogspot.com/2011/03/gender-factor.html.

    i look forward to reading what you have to say about the holidays! i had a great time at the p-con panel, and i’m excited to learn more.

    pax,
    t

    • Excellent! Thank you for attending the panel, and for all of the work you’re doing, and for your statement at the discussion afterwards and your willingness (as I think it was you) to speak with people afterwards, which did so much to help the situation for many people…and for commenting here! I shall go and read the posts you linked to right after this!

      I do take the Communalia alliances very seriously indeed, and I feel that allies should do no less for one another. While the wider debate is an important one, the initial incident I knew was a matter of miscommunication first and foremost, and it’s sad to see that some have decided not to focus upon that. I wish that some people would not have used this particular incident as an opportunity to grandstand as much as they did, and I think there were excesses and lapses of civility on several sides in what ensued, but I hope that what little I’ve done has been in the spirit of civility and fairness.

      As for the upcoming holidays: I suspect there will be poetry, at very least. (And, I think I’m going to post part of something I wrote several months back at some point in the week.) Beyond that, I’m not sure, but these things often play out in interesting ways…!?! ;)

  2. yes, it was me! :)

    I take the alliances very seriously myself, as I was one of the few CAYA members actually present at that ritual as well. I think they stand to benefit us all.

    and the lapses… ohhhh the lapses… it has to be said, my main feeling about the whole thing is something along the lines of “can we all just please take our meds, put on our big girl panties, and talk like the reasonable adults we are supposed to be???”

    i get that this an emotional issue, i really, really do. but shouting at each other is not helpful in any way, shape, or form.

    in any case, i’ve appreciated what you’ve had to say about it, so, thanks for that. :)

    and i look forward to the poetry!

    oh, ps, i was going to ask you- are the majority of the texts regarding antinous in latin? or are there some in greek? my latin is rusty at best, but my greek is pretty good most days…

    • Yes…some of the vitriol is pretty horrific on this…which makes me all the more glad that things here never really blew up at all, for which I’m most thankful. (Perhaps the constant prayers done in our group of Dona nobis pacem help in that regard? Hmm…!)

      I had wondered if I didn’t recognize you from the ’09 ritual…In any case, it’s good to connect/re-connect with you now, and thank you for your continued interest!

      Interestingly, the majority of the ancient texts having to do with Antinous are in Greek–most of the inscriptions and the papyri relating to him are in Greek, while only one major inscription (the Diana and Antinous collegium’s temple constitution from Lanuvium) and a few other short inscriptions to him are in Latin. The reason I like using Latin so much is because I actually do know the language well enough to write in it, and I like how it sounds when sung or chanted…which may be as much due to childhood Catholicism influences as anything, but oh well!

      In fact, there are quite a few texts that, while of not-major-importance, would still be useful and interesting to have translated from Greek that we have not had translated yet. If you’re interested in those, I can see what I can do about getting them to you, if you want to have a crack at it! No pressure or obligation, of course…If you want to read some of the other texts we already have in the original language, though, I’m also very happy to give you some references, if you like. In any case, I’m always happy to provide this kind of info for those interested!

      • i do love the latin (i was definitively NOT catholic as a kid, so it’s always seemed delightfully exotic to me!), and i’ve done enough french, spanish, etc that i can follow it fairly well, but i certainly couldn’t write in it.

        i would LOVE to have a look at some of the greek texts- i tend to be primarily comfortable in koine and byzantine, but considering the time period, that’s probably fine. so exciting!

        i’m also, for the record, very interested in getting involved with the Antinous Bay Area group. :D i know that i gave Lina my email…

      • Very cool! Yes, I do hope the Bay Area group ends up working out. I have not heard anything further on it yet, but as we have some important holy days at the moment, one of my favorites on the 21st of March, and one of the very biggest ones next month with the Megala Antinoeia on the 21st of April, that maybe something will come about in advance of at least the 21st of March occasion (the apotheosis of Diva Sabina Augusta).

        I shall see what I can gather as far as Greek things in the next week or so…and I will contact you when I do! As far as I can tell, it’s all pretty much basic late antique Koine…but you’ll be able to make a better assessment once you see it.


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